She-Design/He-Design: Yasmin Liang’s Justice League!

Note: Transposing your favorite characters to another gender has been a popular pastime for both artists, cosplayers, as well as comic creators. This pin-up by Yasmin Liang takes inspiration from the recent “gender bent” Justice League cosplayers from Comicon to wonderful effect. - Chris A.


43 comments on “She-Design/He-Design: Yasmin Liang’s Justice League!
  1. Isn’t this an artist’s rendering of the infamous genderswap Justice League cosplay that was at ComicCon this year? I’m not denying that it’s awesome, just noting that I think the designs were done by the individual cosplayers, not necessarily by the artist.

  2. This is a riot. Some thoughts –
    AquaWoman needs to show more leg skin.
    After seeing female Martian Manhunter I feel funny calling the original a “man hunter”.
    Wonder Man, well that’s just too close to the Marvel character, call him Wonder Warrior perhaps.
    Super Woman is the perfect hero to showcase Brandon Rouths low-cut red undies.
    Bat Person…no.
    Who is the dude in orange? oh..says Vixen…not familiar, but he could give the 70′s Luke Cage a run for his money in that funky suit.
    Plastic Person…yes!

  3. mmmm well as drawing is very good,i appreciate the idea,but i think she should draw something designed by herself instead copy by a picture.I have to say i love acquawoman and plasticwoman,but flash,superwoman and batwoman’s costumes are too mch manly for my tastes

  4. I agree with Itlas. It’s a nicely rendered piece but (aside from maybe Wonder . . . whatever) it’s basically just putting men in the women’s costumes and women in the men’s. would have been nice to see more alteration in the designs to better suit the new wearers. After all, men and women’s fashions do tend to have differing aesthetics.

  5. Looking at the photos of the cosplayers who inspired this piece, I’m amused that

    a. The male versions of the exposed female costumes (Hunter, Wonder Man, and Power Man) show just how ridiculous those female costumes are.

    b. The female versions of the covered up male costumes look great–esp. the female Superman, female Flash, and female Aquaman suits. The men really do get good costumes, and there’s no reason why women can’t be covered up and look good as well.

    c. The Martian Maneater costume: J’onn really is just about the only severely exposed major male hero, isn’t he?

    d. Plastic Woman is made of pure 100% win.

  6. Itlas:
    mmmm well as drawing is very good,i appreciate the idea,but i think she should draw something designed by herself instead copy by apicture.I have to say i love acquawoman and plasticwoman,but flash,superwoman and batwoman’s costumes are too mch manly for my tastes

    flash/superwoman/batwoman’s costumes aren’t “manly” in any way, shape or form- they’re gender-neutral. The problem is that, especially when it comes to superheroes, we tend to see any indistinct, non-feminine costumes as immediately masculine, when they actually look just as fantastic on the women.

    What could possibly make those already skintight costumes more feminine without pandering, honestly? Heels, skirts and visible skin are the tropes that come to mind, and none of those would actually improve on these costumes in any way.

    -C

  7. Ha, ha! See how seamlessly the infamous ’90s Superman mullet adapts to the gender swap! I suspect the entire piece was secretly an attempt to redeem the mullet… yes… yes…

  8. Not original at all…what a shame, I was about to write “OSSUM I LUV IT! GURL POWER FTW!” :(

  9. Wow, how much better does gender-reversed Superwoman look than any incarnation of Supergirl ever? A lot better, that’s how much. A shame that Beyond the Valley of the Dolls sort of queered the pitch on the name “Superwoman.” (“You beg for mercy, while the cries of six million innocents still ring in your ears? They are waiting for you!”)

  10. Plastic Woman takes it! I think it’s fine that Yasmin drew inspiration from the SDCC cosplayers. She created a great homage, and definitely would’ve made my dream come true were I a member of the group. Who of us wouldn’t be honored to have their likeness drawn in comic book form? Also, it’s clear to me she changed a few of the characters up a bit to give them her own unique spin. Great job Yasmin!

  11. Also, I agree with one person’s comment on Kait’s link, the Martian Manhunter (definitely a lot funnier with the gender switch) costume looks much better on a female character than it does on J’onn J’onzz.

  12. The sandals on “Wonder Man” really don’t help him masculinity at all. Nor the kirted look. Shoulda been the hanging loing cloth or at least a bit more o an armored look. “Vixen” shoulda been wearing tan and not orange, but other than that not bad.

  13. Claire Hummel:
    flash/superwoman/batwoman’s costumes aren’t “manly” in any way, shape or form- they’re gender-neutral.The problem is that, especially when it comes to superheroes, we tend to see any indistinct, non-feminine costumes as immediately masculine, when they actually look just as fantastic on the women.
    What could possibly make those already skintight costumes more feminine without pandering, honestly?Heels, skirts and visible skin are the tropes that come to mind, and none of those would actually improve on these costumes in any way.
    -C

    THEY.ARE.WEARING.BOXERS. if u watch closely,aquawoman pants are more tight than superwoman and batwoman pants,they exactly looks like my girlfriend wearing my boxers….and flash has no tits!

  14. Itlas:
    THEY.ARE.WEARING.BOXERS.if u watch closely,aquawoman pants are more tight than superwoman and batwoman pants,they exactly lookslike my girlfriend wearing my boxers….and flash has no tits!

    The Flash bit is over the line. Breasts come in all sizes, but this sounds like an implication that they should be as oversized as they regularly tend to be in comics. I find it refreshing to see female characters illustrated without quadruple-D’s all the time.

  15. Itlas you’re in for a rude awakening if you think P:R is the kind of place that tolerates misogynistic language in critical discourse. Clean it up and put your glasses on. Look again.

  16. Itlas:
    THEY.ARE.WEARING.BOXERS. … they exactly looks like my girlfriend wearing my boxers….and flash has no tits!

    Sorry, those look like bikini shorts, not boxers. If your boxers look like those … you wandered into the wrong shopping department (and your “girlfriend” knows it, hence she wears them). Also, a small-breasted woman is not manly; the problem with the drawing is that Flash has narrow hips, not that she has no tits.

  17. Claire Hummel:
    flash/superwoman/batwoman’s costumes aren’t “manly” in any way, shape or form- they’re gender-neutral.The problem is that, especially when it comes to superheroes, we tend to see any indistinct, non-feminine costumes as immediately masculine, when they actually look just as fantastic on the women.
    What could possibly make those already skintight costumes more feminine without pandering, honestly?Heels, skirts and visible skin are the tropes that come to mind, and none of those would actually improve on these costumes in any way.
    -C

    Feminine or Masculine aesthetics are purely cultural so everything is gender neutral (some guys would indeed need a bra…), the true difference being anatomy, it is but the cut that must be changed in order for the suits to fit.

    I’m sure i could find a couple ways of using heels, skirts and visible skin to make costumes even more “manly” , innovation is about making ends meet after all.

  18. wooo looks like the crusade against me has started.I HAVEN’T OFFENDED YOU AT ALL ,so i don’t think you need to offend me to explain your points of view.

    @ALEX what i want to say is that to me flash looks like has pectorals,not breast,im not sayng superheroes must be all like Powergirl to be feminine.

    @CHAD P.R. moderates every single comment before publishing it,if mine was publicated it was judjed appropiate for the discussion,and at least it is not offensive against a person like yours on me

    @WRATH if u need to offend personally me,and my gf,it means you have nothing to say and u don’t deserve an answer.

    This a forum,people leaves comments with their own ideas and critics on a subject,if you don’t like what a person write you have only to demolish his argumentation point for point.
    THERE IS NO NEED TO OFFEND PERSONALLY AN USER.
    thank you
    Itlas

  19. Itlas, did it ever occur to you that they approved the comment because it’s a good opportunity for the commenters to point out that we tend to be a bit more constructive.

    Honestly, all you had to do is say that in your opinion the Flash’s breasts looked a bit more like pecs. THAT is a fair comment, but going beyond to use tits overstepped boundaries.

    But honestly, you were wrong- those aren’t boxers. Even boxer briefs are cut differently. Those are what are called bikinis or “boy shorts” which have a bit more coverage on the side than some other cuts of bottoms. Regardless of how your girlfriend might look wearing your boxers, that clearly wasn’t the intention of the artist.

  20. WhitneyD:
    Itlas, did it ever occur to you that they approved the comment because it’s a good opportunity for the commenters to point out that we tend to be a bit more constructive.
    Honestly, all you had to do is say that in your opinion the Flash’s breasts looked a bit more like pecs.THAT is a fair comment, but going beyond to use tits overstepped boundaries.
    But honestly, you were wrong- those aren’t boxers.Even boxer briefs are cut differently.Those are what are called bikinis or “boy shorts” which have a bit more coverage on the side than some other cuts of bottoms.Regardless of how your girlfriend might look wearing your boxers, that clearly wasn’t the intention of the artist.

    Whitney i could be wrong of course,as i say,they looks TO ME a pair of boxer,but everyone has his opinion and i respect it,but i think everyone has the right to explain his point of view in the way and with the words he likes until he don’t offend anyone in a personal way.
    Now i think i am done,and this will be my last comment about this issue.
    we are here to discuss Yasmin’s drawing,any other issue will lead this disscussion off topic.

  21. Itlas:
    @WRATH … u don’t deserve an answer.

    … That’s weird. I didn’t ask a question, so I wasn’t expecting any answer. However, since my obvious sarcasm offended you, then I apologize (my retort was meant to play off your exaggerated assertion that your boxers look exactly like bikini shorts on your girlfriend).

    I do find it bewildering that you seem to think you’ve not offended anyone. People responded negatively to the rudeness of your “tits” comment, but you’ve managed to turn yourself into the victim. Not only did your remark touch on gender expectations, but (for me) it also broached racial expectations, due to the cosplayer upon whom the Flash illustration was based.

    I, personally, find it offensive when someone tells small-breasted Asian women (not necessarily the cosplayer in question) that they’re manly because they have no tits. Now, that may be a step beyond your intended statement, but that is the response you provoked. I’m sorry if my resultant sarcasm came off as a direct personal attack (I only intended to make fun of the idea that your boxers somehow resemble bikini shorts when your girlfriend puts them on).

    … if you don’t like what a person write you have only to demolish his argumentation point for point …

    I pointed out that those aren’t boxers. I ridiculed your use of hyperbole. I stated that the problem lies in hip proportions, not breast size (silhouettes read quicker as female when hips are wider than lats, as shown by the female Green Lantern’s outline [even with her breasts obscured]).

    I addressed your three statements with three correlating sentences. I’m sorry that the sarcasm upset you. This is why I rarely post hereabouts.

    Good day.

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  23. Itlas:
    @ALEXwhat i want to say is that to me flash looks like has pectorals,not breast,im not sayng superheroes must be all like Powergirl to be feminine.

    In that case, I agree with Whitney D — stating it like this probably would have gone over better with P:R readers than the way it was originally put. That sounds like an art criticism, not a criticism that Flash’s breasts aren’t big enough.

  24. mario silva:
    Feminine or Masculine aesthetics are purely cultural so everything is gender neutral (some guys would indeed need a bra…), the true difference being anatomy, it is but the cut that must be changed in order for the suits to fit.
    I’m sure i could find a couple ways of using heels, skirts and visible skin to make costumes even more “manly” , innovation is about making ends meet after all.

    Sorry, I might have made myself unclear- I was saying that heels, skirts and visible skin are tropes to make things more stereotypically “feminine,” I completely agree with your stance. :)

    -C

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  26. Good lord, there is WAY too much comment carnage on this thread. I’m not even going to touch any Itlas-centric stuff, but I will comment on people flipping out over the “it’s not even original. Booooo” argument.

    Who here put the illustration side by side with the actual photo (which has been credited over and over again, so it’s not like anyone should feel like they’ve been fooled unless they didn’t bother to read anything, which, granted, probably happened more often than it did not)?
    If you put them side by side, you will see that there are plenty of differences between the two. Yasmin took ESTABLISHED COSTUMES and tweaked them. Hmm. Why does that sound so familiar? Oh yeah that’s right. PROJECT: ROOFTOP does that. They were minor tweaks, because the MAIN tweak is the gender swap, but there are still tweaks on top of the gender swapped designs made by the cosplayers.

    For instance:
    SDCC GL is Hal. Yasmin’s GL is Jon.
    Plastic Man was given white stockings and a cute pair of shoes to go with the red dress, and that really make that costume for me.
    Yasmin gave MM buccaneer boot cuffs.
    Vixen totally got an overhaul.
    Yasmin refined the white strip on Wonder Woman’s sandals, as well as his skirt and the stars featured on it.

    A lot of this stuff was redesign for the sake of more accurately rendering the gender counterparts’ actual costumes as opposed to cosplayer-crafted garments. However, some of it was taking a look at the cosplayer’s costumes and fine-tuning them.

    As a whole, I think it’s a worthy pin-up, some good fan art, and a nice little contribution to Project:Rooftop and superheroes as a whole.

    Exposed, bare bits and heels are not what superheroines are made of. I think that Superwoman and Batwoman are ridiculously cool-looking. The costume coverage actually is reminiscent of J.H. Williams’ Batwoman, which is far and away one of my favorite costume designs from the past ten years.

    Reading this comment string was flipping frustrating, guys. Let’s not do this again.

  27. @Karl Savage – well said , except for the sentence “…refined the white strip on Wonder Woman’s sandals, as well as his skirt…” That statement is so gender bending my head hurts!

    Besides which, who needs hero-gender-swapping when we could do hero-species-swapping a-la ‘Peter Porker, Spider-Pig’?!?

    Back in the day I had created ‘The Barnyard Avengers’ but I can’t remember any of the characters except my Quicksilver/duck combo ‘Quack Silver’ and his mutant canine sister (who was inexplicably a herding dog) ‘The Scarlet B***h’.

    And yes, I was as juvenile then as I am now.

  28. Rejecting tropes is just as bad as using them all the time. (just look at the convent escapees in DCNU, the pants craze, etc, etc)
    I rather keep ALL options available for my designs thank you. Variety for the win, no exceptions.
    This is my mantra…

  29. Time for a member of the real Genderbent Justice League to pitch in!

    This was a fascinating piece of art for United Underworld to see, because the characters so closely resembled our work but also had some key differences. Our group, as a whole, was totally impressed with it and happy that we had made an impression ourselves.

    As far as the discussion about the styles of the costumes go, that’s an interesting one, because generally speaking we each chose our own designs. Some of the men decided to show more skin and be more sexual, either because they thought it was fun, or because they wanted to draw attention to the severe sexualization of women in comic art. Some of them adapted female designs with a thematic twist, as in Wonder Man.

    Most of the women chose to keep the costumes as they were on the male versions, because we liked the designs and felt that we didn’t have to change them in order to look good. My Aqualass actually would have been belly-baring if I had decided that I was comfortable with showing my body; but even though I made the change for a non-design-related reason, I’m happy with the outcome. As someone above said, there’s no reason any of us should have had to make any changes at all to any of the designs, in order to be more “masculine” or “feminine.” We changed what we wanted to individually, and left what we liked.

    Also, I’m only gonna say this once: please STOP forcing cliched comic-book expectations of what women should look like on our real (and proudly displayed) bodies. While I’m not sure why this artist chose to so closely depict some of our beautiful and realistic ladies (the Flash) and not others (Green Lantern), they are nonetheless all drawn with style and we were proud to be the inspiration. Thank you to the commenters who stood up for our different body types. We’re a bit tired of defending ourselves, really!

    You can see more pictures of our group here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynxpics/sets/72157627150003321/

    Love,
    Aqualass
    {United Underworld}

  30. Hey, Superma’am here, just wanted to say, the cut is boy shorts. That’s what I based them on, that’s what I made, that’s what they are. And I’d hate to speak for the whole league, but I think it’s safe to say, we love this piece of art! I won’t get into the specifics of what we were going for with the costumes and issues of gender and all that jazz. You can read the LA Weekly article I’ve seen posted here if you’re really interested in our thoughts on what we’re doing!
    Thanks for the love, and thanks to the artist for this beautiful piece!
    Superma’am

  31. i love how strong Superwoman looks. really kickass in the classic superman sense, perfect superhero. its funny when you take away the skimpy costumes usually assigned to female superheroes that you see a hero first and a sex symbol second.

  32. …Not really much of a redesign. It’s good, yes, and would work well for a reverse-gender Earth, but… it’s pretty much the same outfits as before.

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